opinions, the process worked, nobody pressured anybody, but at that time, the weekend before the election as the one responsible for homeland security, i knew, because we didn't see any justification for going up by my two respected colleague did. is this something i'm missing? this is a muse. it is not suggesting that their motives on that occasion or any other occasion was to pressure me or impose politics. every decision that they made and every recommendation that they made on multiple other meetings that day and many, many times before, many of which you don't know about because we did not raise the threat system, was based on their assessment of what was in the best interest of the country. they weren't trying to pressure anybody. they were trying to keep the country safe. >> you said there was no support in your department for raising the threat level. none, as you put it, to emphasize the point. then you said at the time of the meeting, i wondered, this is tom ridge wondering, is this about security or politics? what are you wondering about at the time?